June 23, 2005
We Are Resolved ...
... to do pretty much what we have been doing all along.
Everyone was so up in arms about the Public Schools Resolution (tm) -- including me, yes I admit it. And THIS is what we finally resolved to do (I'm skipping the whereas stuff -- if you want to read all that, go here and read the whole thing yourself):
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June 22, 2005
WOW -- Good PR!!!
Three SBC bloggers (two of whom are already in the Aggregator -- guess I need to email
Marty Duren!) were featured in a
story about live blogging at the SBC. Steve DeVane at the North Carolina Baptists' paper
The Biblical Recorder interviewed
Steve McCoy,
Joe Thorn, and Marty briefly at the beginning of his story about blog coverage of the Convention.
Congrats, guys!!
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June 21, 2005
Streaming the SBC
The Southern Baptist Convention is holding it's annual meeting today and tomorrow in Nashville. You can watch the proceedings by clicking
here and following the directions to start streaming.
Pastors Conference is actually the best part -- once you are streaming the convention, click on the 'Video Archives' link (right of the screen) and you can see archival footage of the Pastors Conference. It's worth it.
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June 20, 2005
The REASON For The Public School "Crisis"
WHEREAS, Southern Baptists historically have been strong supporters of public education, and
WHEREAS, Southern Baptists have been deeply committed to the right of all children to achieve their God-given potential, and
WHEREAS, The American public school system is now facing its most serious crisis in history, due to the complex issues of communicating moral values, financing, family breakdown, discipline, the "back to basics movement," racial desegregation, and church-state problems, and
WHEREAS, Many Baptists occupy administrative and teaching positions in the public school system,
THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, That Southern Baptists be urged to pray regularly for those teachers and administrators who work faithfully in the public school system, and
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, That while recognizing the validity of the ministry of church-related private schools, Southern Baptists be urged to become more involved in shaping and supporting public schools, participating responsibly wherever possible in the local school and in the decision-making bodies which determine the course of public education, and
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, That we hereby commit ourselves to help achieve quality education for every child in this nation.
That was a Southern Baptist resoultion in 1971. The emphasis I've added shows where the problem is.
We didn't do it. And now it's a mess, and we want to run away from it.
Parents, educate your kids in the manner you see fit. But Christians, involve yourselves in the schools in your area.
We resolved to do this over 30 years ago. We failed. Let's not fail again.
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way to encourage people to engage the world around them. Some would call this "being missional", something that gets me excited.
Posted by: David at June 20, 2005 07:04 PM (XhdaF)
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Great post! I totally agree. I've commented on this as well.
Posted by: Howie at June 20, 2005 09:15 PM (ZDULp)
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When historically and exactly did the SBC begin to care about the education of every single child?
Posted by: stan at June 24, 2005 09:54 PM (lKejd)
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I've gotten into the habit (a bad one, at that) of answering comments by email. I'm trying to break myself of that, AND I think that this is an important question, so here goes:
The 1961 Resolution on Religious Liberty and Education is targeted at all students, not just Christians or Southern Baptists. Throughout the 40s the Convention addressed the use of public money to fund religious education (they were against it, believe it or not). The public school system has historically had the full support of Southern Baptists -- as early as 1863 there were resolutions at the Convention concerning education and the SBC's role in supporting the education of it's members, as well as all citizens.
The 1979 Resolution on the Crisis in Education reaffrimed the committment to "the right of all children to achieve their God-given potential ... we hereby commit ourselves to help achieve quality education for every child in this nation."
The SBC has a long tradition of being involved in education: this is one of the reasons that the current trend toward wanting to push people to leave the schools is upsetting to many traditional Southern Baptists. I'm not one of those, but the trend does bother me as well.
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My "Exit Strategy"
When I was a kid, some of my friends were Roman Catholic. Every week, they would go to their church for what they called "CCD" classes. These have nothing at all to do with camcorders; this was back in the early 70s. CCD stands for Confraternity of Christian Doctrine classes. The purpose was to give them instruction in their faith.
The Catholic church didn't expect the public schools to do it for them: they did it themselves. Public education has almost always been hostile to those of the Catholic faith here in the US. My friends went to school with me -- church run schools weren't heard of much then (at least to my recollection; I was elementary-school age when we lived there, but all the kids I knew went to the public schools).
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June 07, 2005
Public Education and the SBC, part 2
A quote, taken from a study by the SBC in 2002.
88 percent of Southern Baptist children leave the church and never return after graduating from public school.
Assumably, the culprit is public education. Those darn schools are convincing the kids to leave the church.
I will readily admit that in some cases, this has happened. Especially in studying evolution -- there have been many church kids who have had their faith crushed under the weight of Darwinian thought. Whose fault is that??
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June 03, 2005
Been There, Done That
Last year, I wrote about a
resolution that was sent before the Southern Baptist Convention that advocated the
withdrawl of all children of SBC church members from public schools.
This year, they're doing it again.
The Arnold-Scarbrough Resolution: (a) applauds Christians working in the government schools as missionaries, (b) calls on churches to warn their members of the devastating effects of sending their children to a totally secular institution for their education, (c) calls on churches to become aggressive and pro-active in starting Christian schools and in supporting homeschooling.
I still think it's a bad idea.
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I'm a Southern Baptist pastor whose wife is registrar at one of our two local high schools. The athletic director of the other high school, as well as many other public school educators, are active members of our church. We are able to have a positive impact in the public schools, truly "salt and light," because we are involved, not isolated.
Our music minister's wife homeschools their children, and does a great job. I'm all for that if people feel it is best for their children. But the idea that all Christians should be called to withdraw from the public schools is a backing off of our evangelistic calling.
Posted by: Bob at June 04, 2005 08:53 PM (XRjNc)
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Thanks for your comments, pastor!
We fought a resolution like this this past year at the Kentucky Convention (there was so little support for it that it died in committee), and I was hoping that we'd get on with more important business at the Convention this summer, but I guess people want to fight the old battles rather than fighting the new ones.
Posted by: Warren at June 04, 2005 10:46 PM (a64K1)
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I'm also a Southern Baptist pastor. I agree with your take and had hoped we seen the last of such a resolution. I'm glad you brought it up and let people know that all Souther Baptists don't think that way.
Thanks!
Posted by: Tommy Ham at June 05, 2005 12:27 AM (LJbki)
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Now there are TWO Southern Baptist pastors who agree with me. And I always thought it was hard for Southern Baptists to agree on ANYTHING (lol -- just kidding, guys). Wish I was headed to the convention this year, but I have to actually work this summer, or I won't be taking Systematic III with Dr. Moore in the fall (via the Internet, not live, unfortunately).
Posted by: Warren at June 06, 2005 11:28 PM (a64K1)
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I appreciate the comments about the resolution. But wondering, where does it call for the educators to leave? I believe it is asking Southern Baptist parents to question what their children are being taught and also questioning whether or not children are spiritually prepared to be "salt & light".
Posted by: Suzanne at June 07, 2005 12:23 AM (cYlkM)
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Thanks for your comment, Suzanne.
They aren't asking for educators to leave -- they are questioning the ability of those educators to effect real change by giving up on public education. They are also questioning the church's ability to prepare kids for school, and parent's ability to effect change in schools. I think a much better strategy is to be supportive of parents' decsisions no matter what -- and provide a ministry for kids who are in public education, rather than throwing our hands in the air and saying "we're done with this."
I don't even want to think what will happen to public education if "they" don't have to worry about what the Christian parents will say about what they're doing.
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